Connecticut Democratic Rep. Jim Himes gave Trump's Commerce Secretary the treatment he deserves when asked about Trump's continued threats to fire the Fed Chair, Jerome Powell.
July 21, 2025

Connecticut Democratic Rep. Jim Himes gave Trump's Commerce Secretary the treatment he deserves when asked about Trump's continued threats to fire the Fed Chair, Jerome Powell.

Face the Nation host Margaret Brennan asked Himes what happens if Trump does fire Powell, even though he does not have the authority to do that without cause, and Himes immediately shifted to this nonsense that came out of Lutnick's mouth just before Himes came on.

Howard Lutnick says many amazing trade deals are coming in 2 weeks: “The next two weeks are going to be weeks for the record books!”

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— Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) July 20, 2025 at 10:47 AM

CONGRESSMAN JIM HIMES: Yeah, well, you know, Margaret, the last question you asked the Secretary, shows what a con man he is. And I just listened to his whole thing. And, you know, if you're over the age of five, you've dealt with hucksters and con men.

Everything is going to be great in two weeks. By August 1st, we're going to have a deal. The American people are going to be so happy. Complete failure to understand the facts, right? He said that tariffs are paid by foreign countries. Tariffs are not paid by foreign countries.

He said, Jay Powell is torturing the American people. Margaret, you didn't have the time, but if you'd had a minute, you would have said, wait a minute. There's a Federal Open Market Committee that is comprised of seven Fed governors, and all of the heads of the central bank offices around the country.

That committee, comprised of people who have been appointed by Democratic and Republican Presidents, set the interest rates, right? So, this notion that Jay Powell is unilaterally stopping a decline in interest rates, which, by the way, in the of- in the face- for those of those folks who know a little bit about economics, in the face of up-ticking inflation, which we're seeing, would be absolutely bananas.

So, what you just saw was a master class by a huckster and a con man who uses words like torture that are very, very dangerous words, not just for the economy, but for the physical safety of people like Jay Powell.

MARGARET BRENNAN: Well, just to be clear, that's why I said it's not the Chairman's unilateral decision for exactly the reason you raised, that there is a committee that makes the decision. The inflation rate for the CPI was 2.7% if you strip out food- energy and food, which is more volatile, it's up two-tenths of a percent. So, that economic data is what we are pointing to there, not opinion on pricing. But, is there congressional pushback that can be done? I mean, what happens if there's a tweet that says the Fed chair is gone?

REP. HIMES: Well, interestingly, inside the White House, and I don't know who it is, my guess is it's maybe the Treasury Secretary is saying, and this is a very difficult thing to say to a person like Donald Trump, that if you fire the Fed chair, either illegally, which they're happy to do, or because you trump up some baloney-like-charge associated with a renovation of the headquarters, there is going to be a massive market reaction, because you cannot lie to the capital markets.

We saw this the day after Liberation Day, before we all were familiarized with the TACO trade. The day after liberation day, the stock and the bond markets took a nosedive.

So, my guess is that somebody is saying to the president because he doesn't care if he follows the law or not, and the law is very clear that he can't fire the Fed chair. But somebody is saying to the President, the economic instability that gets caused when the cornerstone of the global economy and capital markets all of the sudden has a politically driven interest rate policy. I think that's the one thing that's holding them off.

It won't stop Trump from installing someone completely unqualified when Powell's term is up. It was nice to see someone knock them for their "two weeks" nonsense. Brennan should have done it, but our corporate media is feckless.

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